tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439331035718369167.post812169816312921987..comments2024-02-09T02:48:13.776-06:00Comments on Daily Meditations with Fr. Alfonse: Mark 6:17-29 Biting Someone's Head OffFr. Alfonsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02557206560119402976noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439331035718369167.post-86203429074460212322013-09-13T15:40:40.349-05:002013-09-13T15:40:40.349-05:001. "Why is he weird?"
Ah…well… what do y...1. "Why is he weird?"<br />Ah…well… what do you call someone who claims that incest would be fine as long as people were consenting to it?<br /><br />If that's not weird than what is? Would you consider it weird if a consenting adult sipped on his own urine or gasoline (“My strange addictions”) when there was portable water in the faucet? <br />As long as their consenting then it's okay, right? <br /><br />2. ME: *In the animal kingdom it is strength...<br /><br />YOU SAID: "Not always, it can also be skill, ability to provide food/shelter or some colorful display.<br /><br />Really? Are you assuming that “strength” refers to only physical strength and not other forms of strength such as the strength of one’s abilities, like a colorful display?<br /><br />3. YOU SAID: This is true of any relationship.<br /><br />I agree. So using "consent" among adults as a standard for morality is just as useless as any manmade standard in determining right and wrong, right? <br /><br />The problem that you can't seem to wrap your mind around is that every sense of right and wrong could easily fall into complete nonsense if the individual man or even a group of men were the standard for standards. Get it?<br /><br />4. YOU SAID: And you would rather believe in a morality subject to the whims of God? Can things be immoral one day and perfectly fine the next just because he says so (see: Leviticus)? Or is morality above even God and he is bound by it?<br /><br />ME: Now who said they are the "whims" of a God? I love it how atheists can throw into their argument a completely biased and bigoted opinion and then make it sound like a known fact!<br /><br />Sorry, but you’re just another pompous, ignorant and immature bigoted atheist. <br /><br />I should stop right here, but I won’t because I know how this can help others deal with people like you. <br /><br />Is it the whims of a God that said "love your enemies" and "do good to those who insult you?" Or does it serve a purpose?<br /><br />It isn't God's opinion that changes from one day to the next. What changes are our abilities to advance from one thing to the other. <br /><br />Growing up, did your morality come from the whims of your mom? Or did it depend on your age and ability to be responsible? Did she expect you to work in a coal mine at the age of three? Weren't children allowed to work in coal mines once upon a time? So what happened??? Was this the whims of politicians? Or the need for families to have bread on the table?<br /><br />Let me ask you, Biblical scholar, what is the purpose of the Old Testament? Since you know Leviticus so well, correct? Or are you an authentic atheist that uses bombastic expressions to hide an ignorance that runs deep within your veins.<br />Harley Davidsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02071334444511563074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439331035718369167.post-49195411511193685642013-09-13T11:55:25.115-05:002013-09-13T11:55:25.115-05:00*Anonymous (the weird one, not the one above)
Why...*Anonymous (the weird one, not the one above)<br /><br />Why is he weird just because he posts something you disagree with?<br /><br />*In the animal kingdom it is strength, not consent, that determines mating.<br /><br />Not always, it can also be skill, ability to provide food/shelter or some colorful display.<br /><br />*You have no moral foundation. Hence, you are a moral relativist.<br /><br />And you would rather believe in a morality subject to the whims of God? Can things be immoral one day and perfectly fine the next just because he says so (see: Leviticus)? Or is morality above even God and he is bound by it?<br /><br />*It can actually lead to a lot of hurt people: spouses and the children of the "consenting" adults.<br /><br />This can be true of ANY relationship.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439331035718369167.post-70288044368864742792013-08-29T17:55:16.342-05:002013-08-29T17:55:16.342-05:00Just like a typical atheist.
Anonymous (the wei...Just like a typical atheist. <br /><br />Anonymous (the weird one, not the one above): What makes you think that "Consent" is the proper criteria? It is obviously your criteria. In the animal kingdom it is strength, not consent, that determines mating. What makes that wrong? <br /><br />This is what happens when you're an atheist. You have no moral foundation. Hence, you are a moral relativist.<br /><br />2nd. What makes you think that two consenting adults is always a good thing? It can actually lead to a lot of hurt people: spouses and the children of the "consenting" adults.<br /><br /> Harley Davidsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02071334444511563074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439331035718369167.post-75909635743793117272013-08-29T17:30:34.568-05:002013-08-29T17:30:34.568-05:00The story about this North Korean king is so chill...The story about this North Korean king is so chilling--and so is the picture!! Awful. I do wonder, though, whether they were involved in pornography. I'm suspicious that he just made up charges against them. How can you trust a man like that? If he has no qualms about committing murder, he likely has no qualms about lying either. These women could very well be innocent. Or, maybe they were made to participate in sexual acts by force, who knows? I believe the article stated that some of the dissidents were holding Bibles--not sure if they are referring to the women or not. Poor sisters! I pray that Our Mother Mary will embrace them and lead them to Her Son Jesus. ~Eternal rest grant unto them, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon them. May the souls of the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace.~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439331035718369167.post-80278513707264790802013-08-29T17:08:37.404-05:002013-08-29T17:08:37.404-05:00I'm so glad you clarified. Thank you! It is ...I'm so glad you clarified. Thank you! It is exactly what I was expecting to read. <br /><br />Why remain anonymous? Be proud of what you believe in.Fr. Alfonsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02557206560119402976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439331035718369167.post-54645324825482219912013-08-29T16:39:15.076-05:002013-08-29T16:39:15.076-05:00What have I not demonstrated? Even if you complet...What have I not demonstrated? Even if you completely discount what wikipedia says, you can go to the references and look there. Links to multiple published research papers. I do not see how you can deny that. Yes, there exists a mating season for reproduction, many species with mating seasons also have sex outside of that time.<br /><br />I said "perfectly acceptable among CONSENTING ADULTS." I think that covers forced sex, the dead, and between species. Incest is a little different. I do not know if there is any actual harm as long as no offspring is produced. It may be a social taboo. I certainly would not participate, I would not deny others as long as it is between CONSENTING ADULTS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439331035718369167.post-87352824331649769342013-08-29T15:57:13.055-05:002013-08-29T15:57:13.055-05:00"I would also consider many of those actions ..."I would also consider many of those actions to be perfectly acceptable among consenting adults."<br /><br />Obviously, others do not. But thank God we are not of the animal kingdom. We have these things called laws. But laws can change. Fr. Alfonsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02557206560119402976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439331035718369167.post-88531782203602040162013-08-29T15:54:32.164-05:002013-08-29T15:54:32.164-05:00You haven't demonstrated anything.
"We a...You haven't demonstrated anything.<br /><br />"We also know that the animal kingdom desires sex ONLY to propagate."<br /><br />In the animal kingdom, sex is only for propagation, not for intimacy or inner sharing. There exists a mating season for reproduction.<br /><br />In the human world, sex serves many more purposes other than pleasure and reproduction. There is no mating season.<br /><br />The fact that you find many of those actions to be perfectly acceptable is not surprising to me. You failed to mention incest and forced sex. You did, however, mention sex with the dead and between species. <br /><br />Go ahead and pick and choose all you want. But other can as well, and choose differently (and have).Fr. Alfonsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02557206560119402976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439331035718369167.post-11677584762294440922013-08-29T15:23:07.404-05:002013-08-29T15:23:07.404-05:00Just because you don't use Wikipedia does not ...Just because you don't use Wikipedia does not mean it is completely inaccurate. And who cares about animals taking vows, marriage is a human concept. <br /><br />Your statement was "We also know that the animal kingdom desires sex ONLY to propagate." That is demonstrably false. I do not disagree with the notion that sexual activity in humankind can be more than a reproductive function, but the same is obviously true in the animal kingdom.<br /><br />I would also consider many of those actions to be perfectly acceptable among consenting adults. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439331035718369167.post-7789875308861903572013-08-29T12:28:44.990-05:002013-08-29T12:28:44.990-05:00Interesting...Wikipedia is not my source of inform...Interesting...Wikipedia is not my source of information, sorry. Have they observed them giving each other rings and taking vows?<br /><br />I do not know what you are trying to get at. Animals cannot sin. Do you know that? Human beings can. Are you saying that it would be appropriate for a human beings (another animal, right?) to engage in such behavior as observed in the animal kingdom?<br /><br />Sex in the animal kingdom is to continue the species. They may take pleasure in many ways, but the ultimate goal of sex is to continue to species. <br /><br />The same cannot be said with human beings, where sex and gender take on a life of their own and can lead to some incredible drama in human history.Fr. Alfonsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02557206560119402976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-439331035718369167.post-49654920495417334982013-08-29T12:09:37.384-05:002013-08-29T12:09:37.384-05:00We also know that the animal kingdom desires sex o...We also know that the animal kingdom desires sex only to propagate.<br /><br />Really?<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_sexual_behaviour<br /><br />"Among animals, researchers have observed monogamy, promiscuity, sex between species, sexual arousal from objects or places, sex apparently via duress or coercion, copulation with dead animals, homosexual sexual behaviour, heterosexual, bisexual sexual behaviour, situational sexual behaviour, and a range of other practices."<br /><br />"In bonobos, the amount of promiscuity is particularly striking because bonobos use sex to alleviate social conflict as well as to reproduce."<br /><br />"It appears that many animals, both male and female, masturbate, both when partners are available and otherwise"<br /><br />"Animals of several species are documented as engaging in both autofellatio and oral sex."<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com